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August 04, 2006
UN Reality
A United Nations committee dealing with racism took time out from its normal schedule Thursday to discuss Israel's military campaign in Lebanon, despite appeals by Jewish groups and concerns raised by an American member that it was stepping outside its mandate.
Some members of the 18-person, Geneva-based Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) argued that whether within its remit or not, the body had the right to express concern about the humanitarian situation in Lebanon resulting from the conflict.
Others, however, believed the discussion was clearly within the competency of an anti-racism body, and accused Israel of targeting Arabs because of their race, according to a U.N. summary of the debate.
Jose Lindgren-Alves, a Brazilian on the committee, asked whether there was not at least a tinge of racism behind Israel's "disproportionate" response to the kidnapping of its soldiers.
He wondered whether Israel have reacted as harshly if there was no racism involved.
Posted by Aaron at August 4, 2006 09:11 AM
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How can Isreal not be a racist country when the main requirement for citizenship is that your mother is a member of the jewish race?
Go ahead and throw up. Then get around to the plain fact that being a victim of racism does not preclude the victim from being a racist themself.
Posted by: IaintBacchus at August 4, 2006 11:00 AM
So then the leaders of the NAACP and other movement blacks are racist too?
Posted by: Aaron at August 4, 2006 11:50 AM
Many of them are, I imagine. It has been my direct experience that blacks in this country are far more race conscious than most whites.
Just like, religious intolerence aside, gays are more likely to make an issue of gender identity than straights. Or people who have been abused as children are more likely to be abusers themselves. Being victimized doesn't make you less inclined to prejudice it make you more inclined.
The irony is that the holocast survivers who started the state of Isreal not only treat the Palestinians almost as badly as they were treated in Europe but were the first to commit terrorist acts in Palestine. I can't blame them. The idea of a Jewish state is a valid one. But I don't condone them perpetuating the cycle, either.
Now if you can make any kind of a case that the Isreali government is not racist, I'd love to hear it.
Posted by: IaintBacchus at August 4, 2006 01:47 PM
Ask the 1 million arab citizens of Israel...they seem to be pleased.
Posted by: Aaron at August 4, 2006 02:08 PM
It is NOT a requirement of Israel that your mother be Jewish. Where on earth did you come up with such bogus information!?
I have said this before, I will say it again: This is the gospel according to the mainstream media: (a) It is perfectly acceptable for Palestinians or any other Arab to routinely - over a period of 58 years virtually without pause - to kill Israeli civilians of whatever age, (b) It is perfectly acceptable for Hezbollah to INVADE the territory of a sovreign nation and kidnap two of its soldiers who were doing nothing but guarding their own country's border, (c) It is NOT acceptable for Israel to retaliate or defend itself, (d) It is perfectly acceptable for Hezbollah to hide behind and among innocent civilians, including women and children, (e)It is NOT acceptable for Israelis to, therefore, accidentally harm those same innocent civilians who were put in harm's way by their own people.
In other words, hypocrisy is the watchword of the day - again.
Posted by: Gayle Miller at August 4, 2006 03:13 PM
First of all Gayle I learned in Highschool 30 years ago that anyone could emigrate to isreal if their mother was a Jew or they had converted to the Jewish faith. If that has changed since I have never heard it.
Second, there is no mainstream media gospel. Stop setting up straw men. None of what Hezbollah has done is acceptible to anyone. Neither is it acceptible for Isreal to attack and kill over 500 civilians in retaliation for the kidnapping of 2 soldiers. Killing civilians is a terrorist tactic wheither done with a bomb strapped to the chest or a US supplied rocket fired from a helecopter. We're at war with terrorism, aren't we? Or is that only when the tactic is employed by someone we don't like.
I guess you're right. Hypocracy IS the watchword of the day. Particularly dispensationalists that think they are hastening the second coming of their God by supporting the terrorist government in Isreal.
Oh yeah, we're supposed to be encouraging democracy in the middle east. So why are we paying for Isreal to attack no one but two countries with democratically elected governments? Or are we only in favor of democracy for our friends?
Gayle, I don't think you should EVER use the word hypocracy again.
Posted by: IaintBacchus at August 4, 2006 04:05 PM
Yes, Aaron. Let's by all means ask the Arab citizens of Israel. It's 1.3 million by the way.
Here's yet another WaPo article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/17/AR2006011701414_pf.html
The words discrimination and neglect get used a lot in this article. Sort of like being black in the US before the civil rights movement.
Posted by: IaintBacchus at August 4, 2006 04:12 PM