I watched both movies. A waste of time for me, since my research is ten times more extensive than both films. 9/11 is the most obvious inside job one can research, and Loose Change at least brings attention to how insane a story the "official" one is. It only scratches the surface, and I would not consider it that well done. Considering that some young men did this, and it's free- it is a very valuable piece of work.
The counter points in Screwloosechange were pathetic. To document the inaccuracies would take too long. There were in fact 2 relevant and accurate comments, however, neither one do anything to "debunk" LooseChange. The rest of the commentary was not researched or was irrelevant whining.
The POINT of Loose Change, I thought, was to raise awareness enough, to make the public demand a "real" investigation- they made their point very well. The POINT of ScrewLooseChange, I thought, was to 'debunk' LooseChange as full of misinformation. This was not done at all. What amazes me, is the amount of effort that goes into supporting a gov. story that is full of holes, stinky holes at that, by attacking those who think.

Hey, don't apologize!

Here is the main problem with ScrewLooseChange. It is not the fact that it attempts to use another's work to gain fame, or that it is full of immature whining about the music or the producers of LC. It is this:

The official conspiracy theory was issued by the gov. whereby:
19 arab hijackers with boxcutters, took over 4 airplanes, compromised US air defenses for up to 1.5 hours, caused Steel framed buildings to collapse symetrically with jet fuel. They were poor pilots with suicidal tendencies. the results of these attacks did nothing to help their cause.

black boxes, airplane wreckage, crime scene evidence, pentagon videos- where are they. a delayed investigation- why? proven lies in NORAD testimony, and BUSH/CHENEY never under oath. No one held accountable.

Loose Change tries to show 2 things: the story of the gov is full of holes, and the most obvious suspect would be 'insiders'. This is laid out- and is undeniable. Anyone who looks over the evidence themselves see this immediately. Because of the farce called the "911 commission", they makers of this film just want a "real investigation".

So why does ScrewLooseChange try to 'debunk' Loose Change? Trying to "fill in the holes" left by the gov. story is a wasteful activity. Loose Change was not asking some internet moron to answer their questions, they want GOV OFFICIALS to do this. The gov. needs to defend their version, and they CAN'T!.

To the makers of ScrewLC, please do more objective research. If you still believe the gov. explanation, then fine. But you did NOT debunk Loose Change. You avoided dozens of issues, and the ones you did address were simply misleading captions placed on top of the original film lol. There were a few points that one could describe as accurate, however, they provided little relevance to the actual point being made in LC.

The points made about Airline Piloting, Building Construction, Physics, etc are among the most indicative of an uninformed commentating.

one small example:
Instead of saying "do you have a better picture" in the pentagon scenes for example- try considering that NO PLANE is seen, NO VIDEOS have been released, and that a commerical jet liner flying at 450 mph over a highway would have been SEEN especially considering the fact that cars would have been throws all over the roadway from the engines. You cant do the maneuver due to a HIGH SPEED STALL, and flying close to the ground, at that speed is impossible to believe as well.

Some people feel that in a sovereign nation, accountability should be given to the people. Some people blindly fall victim to false flag psy ops, become good little nazi brown shirts, in love with a father figure who will protect them from "terrorists". If the makers of ScrewLooseChange are so upset with the film Loose Change, they should also call for a "real" investigation.

I think these commenters are confusing your blog (ScrewLooseChange.blogspot.com) with the Screw Loose Change movie.
DKK

It is not the fact that it attempts to use another's work to gain fame....

Gee.... isn't that the same thing Dylan Avery did? Boosting all that footage that wasn't theirs? I believe some people had something to say about that.

The conspiracy theorists above make it sound as if "Loose Change" has some validity. It doesn't. Every single claim in the movie is wrong, and most of them are hideously, laughably wrong, things that any 8th grader could correct with a few minutes on the internet. Loose Changte is that bad.

I have advised the creators of every error in the movie, but they aren't interested in listening to critics. To see just how stupid, nasty, and disrespectful the creeps who made "LC" are, read my compilation of their quotes, "Loose Change Creators Speak." http://tinyurl.com/s8ouv

Pat and I are not political bedfellows, but he's done great work with "Screw Loose Change," and his critiques are spot-on.

"Me," you wrote, "A waste of time for me, since my research is ten times more extensive than both films."

Where can I find the results of your intensive research?

"XPat," you are pathetically poorly-informed. The answers to the questions posed in "Loose Change' were right in front of its creators, and they're right in front of you. Ignoring those answers doesn't make them go away,

For those not aware, Mark Roberts is the premiere debunker of Loose Change, whose work has made ours at SLC much easier.

I just started it for the groupies. Wild drunken young women throwing themselves at me and all...

The screwloose change blog has been listed as "deployed" by the Captain's Quarter's so-called right wing site. Many of members of these so-called "right-wing"(actually a misnomer) sites and affiliated (but purposefully attenuated) 911 debunking sites have received letters from CENTCOM, which say the following:

Subject: Exclusive Contact from the Army

Hi, [XXXXX]. I’m writing from a PR firm on behalf of the U.S. Army. We’re contacting a few bloggers to test a new outlet for public information. The Army believes that military blogs are a valuable medium for reaching out to soldiers. To that end, the Army plans to offer you and selected bloggers exclusive editorial content on a few issues you’re likely to be interested in. If you do decide you are interested in receiving this material, whether you choose to write about what we send you is, of course, entirely up to you. (I notice you’ve been on a blog sabbatical for a while so am not sure where you stand there.)

Like I said, we’re only contacting a handful of bloggers at this time. If you are interested, please let me know, and we’ll send you further information as it becomes available. Either way, thanks for your time.

[XXXXX]
Account Executive
Web Producer
Hass MS&L

The bottom line is that the Army has hired PR firm Hass MSL of Detroit to offer exclusive editorial content to blogs willing to run government propaganda. I haven't given in yet, and I am a conservative. here is another letter:

current CENTCOM policy is to release information on our website (www.centcom.mil) and not give any one blog a “scoop” by giving it to them first. If a blogger enquires about an issue, and it’s on the site, we’ve tried to direct them to it.

Beyond that, if there is information or material needed to help with a post that a blogger is working on, I’m happy to assist as I am able. We’re just trying to make our site a reliable source of info. Some bloggers choose to focus on the casualty reports that we post. Others are interested in the humanitarian projects occuring in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom which we document on our site. Whatever the slant, that’s an editorial choice on the part of the individual blogger.

[XXXXXXX]
CENTCOM Public Affairs

Hi, [XXXX]:

...I’m not sure if you have been to the US Central Command website but we regularly post news, photos, audio and video from Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. You (and your fellow bloggers) are welcome to use any materials you find on our site. If you’d like to receive the weekly electronic newsletter and monthly Coalition Bulletin, just ask.

If you could add a link to CENTCOM, it’d be appreciated (I’m trying to spread the word about our site!). I’ve attached the CENTCOM logo, should you want to use it with the link. Thanks!

[XXXXXXX]

CENTCOM Public Affairs