Sedition: an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority and tending to cause the disruption or overthrow of the government.

Precisely what do you find seditious about the above fragment? It is the press' most important job to report on the government. Particularly when it's doing something illegal and counterproductive, as in this case. That's how we get that educated, informed populus that makes democracy work. Are you against democracy? Why do you hate our system of government? You must then hate American, too. That makes you a seditionist, doesn't it?

Proving once again the old saw about...if you say something often enough....etc.,etc. Noone has decided if the spying is illegal. Let alone counterproductive. Listening in on potential terrorists conversations is a lot nicer than what Ide do to them.

The wire-tapping may be in a legal "gray area", but we are at war with an enemy with no regard for any sort of rules. How many of our hands are we going to tie behind our backs?

The same folks squawling about this are going to be the same ones to ask "why didn't the President do more", after something happens.

Its interesting how those who favor despotism see a legal "gray area" for the despot, but see pure black and white sedition when a newspaper exercises its right and duty to inform under the U.S. Constitution, when defense lawyers invoke the 4th amendment to shield the accused, and prominent ex-officials of the U.S. government offer their legal expertise in a flegling Democracy set up by the despot.

You need no more evidence of what kind of society you have by supporting the Bushivics than the comments of Aaron, Bad.er, and Joe-6-pack above. The kind of American they would have us live in is one where Newspaper Editors and Reporters can be jailed for reporting crimes commited by the Administration, people only suspected of being "potential" terrorists are subject to not only warrantless surveillence but vigilante justice, and anything that restrains the executive branch, even the other two branches, is tying the hands of those who would "protect us".

The Kingdom of Wingnuttia has already surrendered to the terrorists by willingly giving up all of their freedoms in the name of safety. In this new down-the-rabbit-hole society, the U.S. Constitution and its defenders are the enemy.

There will always be weak little people like Bad.er and joe 6pack who sheepishly follow "our leader" because they think they can trade my freedom for their security.
Bad.er obviously hasn't even read the article which states that several existing terrorism convictions stand a good chance of being overturned because of the illegal wiretaps. Even the judges on the FISA court feel that the taps were illegal and FISA itself forbids them. So the questions of illegality and counterproductivity are settled. Except in the so called minds of the brainwashed partisans on this site.

Bad.er obviously hasn't even read the article which states that several existing terrorism convictions stand a good chance of being overturned because of the illegal wiretaps. Even the judges on the FISA court feel that the taps were illegal and FISA itself forbids them. So the questions of illegality and counterproductivity are settled.

Do these idiots remember that we are at WAR? It is so doggone frustrating!

I have actually had some of these civil liberties goofballs tell me they would RATHER run the risk of further attacks than give up their civil liberties.

I remind them that they do have the right to STAY ALIVE and if we don't stop these murderous thugs, that civil right (among many others) will disappear forever!

Gayle

Let them have their little love fest. They are not convincing anyone. If there is another successful attack in America those two loons will be the shrieking the loudest for more protection and that GW has once again failed